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A Bad Move

Old Post OfficeI knew the day was coming but it's still super disappointing to actually see the buildings of the Ward County Historical Society's Pioneer Village up on blocks and ready to move off of the premises.

In my personal and not at all humble opinion this move is a bad move for everyone involved.

1) The public: Instead of the convenient location on the State Fair Grounds they will have to visit the Pioneer Village in Burlington ND. The spot in Burlington is on barren land, no comparison to the nice wooded area on the Fair Grounds. Honestly, we only went to the Pioneer Village during the fair so it may be a long time before we visit it in the new location.

2) The Ward County Historical Society will certainly loose visitors for all the reasons I stated above. I think the president of the WCHS did a horrible job of calling supporters to action in an attempt to save it from this move.

3) The Fair Grounds lost a lot of respect from the public who saw no reason for them to evict the WCHS. The reason given was that they want to build a convention center in that location. Hotels were greatly overbuilt in 2012 and have a huge vacancy rate. Nearly every hotel in Minot ND has been sold in the last 5 years due to their bad financial situation. Building a convention center here/now is nothing short of stupid.

 

 

 

 

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Whether you are moving across town or across the country you need to make an evaluation and determine, is this a good move or not? I won't go into all the aspects of economy and personal relationships but I will encourage you to to a little research on neighborhoods, especially if you are moving to an unfamiliar community.

When we were looking for a home in Minot I questioned the safety of the area in which we now live. My wife, who had grown up in a near by town, assured me it was safe and she was right. The community has been a perfect fit for us.

I remember a post here on AR from several years ago. A couple loved the house they were looking at but were concerned about the amount of trash cans the neighbors had out at the curb. When they visited, and they visited several times during that week it was always quit and peaceful. They decided to go view the neighborhood late evening one night. Party, party, party... it was as if "Animal House" was being filmed next door. A little further investigation revealed that it was like that most nights and in fact the reason the home they were looking at was for sale.

A little investigation can save you a lot of stress and hopefully from making a bad move in the 1st place.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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ROBERT L. TIMM, OWNER

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Comment balloon 20 commentsBob "RealMan" Timm • April 23 2019 01:05AM

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Hi Bob,
I am sorry to hear the Pioneer Village was moved to a less desireable location. And, as you said, location is very important in choosing a place to live as well... from a value, safety and comfort point of view. 

Posted by Carol Williams, Retired Agent / Broker / Property Manager (Although I'm retired, I love sharing my knowledge and learning from other real estate industry professionals.) 3 months ago

Hello Bob,  They are say change happen and some time for the good and other times it is not.

 

Posted by Will Hamm, "Where There's a Will, There's a Way!" (Hamm Homes) 3 months ago

Good afternoon Bob "RealMan" Timm - that is very sad to hear about Pioneer Village.  Considering all the alternatives would have been wise.  Obviously, it wasn't done.

Posted by Grant Schneider, Your Coach Helping You Create Successful Outcomes (Performance Development Strategies) 3 months ago

Good afternoon Bob. It always comes back to location doesn't it. A bad move is something we all need to concern ourselves with. It's more than the structure.

Posted by Sheila Anderson, The Real Estate Whisperer Who Listens 732-715-1133 (Referral Group Incorporated) 3 months ago

It sure is a less desirable location in my book Carol Williams . They may get more exposure to drive by travelers as they are on a fairly busy highway but I don't think the over all traffic will be as heavy as where they are now.

Posted by Bob "RealMan" Timm, Owner of Ward Co. Notary Services, retired Realtor (Ward County Notary Services) 3 months ago

True Will Hamm and I'd be amazed if this was for the better.

Posted by Bob "RealMan" Timm, Owner of Ward Co. Notary Services, retired Realtor (Ward County Notary Services) 3 months ago

Grant Schneider I'd like to say it's the State Fair managers fault but the WCHS president just rolled over and did not put up a fight even though popular opinion would have had his back in a big way.

Posted by Bob "RealMan" Timm, Owner of Ward Co. Notary Services, retired Realtor (Ward County Notary Services) 3 months ago

Great observation Sheila Anderson 

Posted by Bob "RealMan" Timm, Owner of Ward Co. Notary Services, retired Realtor (Ward County Notary Services) 3 months ago

Bob,

Sorry to hear your disappointment in the moving the historical Pioneer Village.  I know what you mean about hotel overbuild.  We see so many spa hotels in our travels, and they all charge anywhere froma $35 to $50 fee a day, even though we will not be using it, because we are there to work.  LOL

Posted by Ron and Alexandra Seigel, Luxury Real Estate Branding, Marketing & Strategy (Napa Consultants) 3 months ago

A. Ron and Alexandra Seigel after the oil bust hotels were lucky to have a 20% occupied rate. I think most if not all filed for bankruptcy. I can only think of 2 that still have the same name they had in 2012.

Posted by Bob "RealMan" Timm, Owner of Ward Co. Notary Services, retired Realtor (Ward County Notary Services) 3 months ago

Hi Bob... in your shoes, I'd be disappointed as well to have historical buildings moved. But at least it's being moved and not totally razed to the ground, as I've seen in other places.

Posted by Nina Hollander, Your Charlotte/Ballantyne/Waxhaw/Fort Mill Realtor (Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage ) 3 months ago

Hi Bob - I hope the move turns out as a wise one but I understand your feelings.  It does seem to evoke a cry to "follow the money".  

Posted by Michael Jacobs, Los Angeles Pasadena 818.516.4393 3 months ago

That would be horrible Nina Hollander . I can't imagine the destruction of such historical buildings. Thanks for giving me a new perspective.

Posted by Bob "RealMan" Timm, Owner of Ward Co. Notary Services, retired Realtor (Ward County Notary Services) 3 months ago

I hope so too Michael Jacobs . None of it makes sense to me. The State Fair has plenty of room to expand, there is no reason they had to toss out the WCHS.

Posted by Bob "RealMan" Timm, Owner of Ward Co. Notary Services, retired Realtor (Ward County Notary Services) 3 months ago

Investigation is often key to saving home buyers from significant mistakes.  Sellers don't always disclose situations you outline.

Posted by Myrl Jeffcoat, Greater Sacramento Real Estate Agent (GreatWest Realty) 3 months ago

Bob "RealMan" Timm hi Bob... that's why in places like NYC and here in Charlotte we've categorized entire neighborhoods as historical neighborhoods, to keep people from totally tearing down old buildings and to retain the character of the neighborhoods.

Posted by Nina Hollander, Your Charlotte/Ballantyne/Waxhaw/Fort Mill Realtor (Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage ) 3 months ago

Sellers lie or not fully disclose Myrl Jeffcoat ... who knew? 

Posted by Bob "RealMan" Timm, Owner of Ward Co. Notary Services, retired Realtor (Ward County Notary Services) 3 months ago

Great idea Nina Hollander . We have one historical district but I know for sure that not all buildings are protected because of it (even though they may be in it).

Posted by Bob "RealMan" Timm, Owner of Ward Co. Notary Services, retired Realtor (Ward County Notary Services) 3 months ago

We had a historic building moved from its location to a side street in Bethesda - not as bad as moving it completely out of the public view 

Posted by Lise Howe, Assoc. Broker and Attorney Licensed in DC, MD, VA, (Keller Williams Capital Properties) 2 months ago

It has also made it much less assessable to elementary students in the area for field trips Lise Howe .

Posted by Bob "RealMan" Timm, Owner of Ward Co. Notary Services, retired Realtor (Ward County Notary Services) 2 months ago

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